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Canadiens Prospect Rankings: Ivan Demidov Is A Game Changer

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Ivan Demidov (picture credit @ Russia Hockey) Top Montreal Canadinens prospect.

We’ve finally reached the peak of the Montreal Canadiens prospect rankings, ending our summer project with one of the most talented players to ever join the organization, forward Ivan Demidov.



Previously Published 2024 Montreal Canadiens Summer Prospect Rankings (Top 5)

To qualify for our list, Habs prospects must be 23 years old or younger, and have fewer than 100 NHL games under their belt.

Canadiens Prospect Rankings – No.5: David Reinbacher’s Complicated Season

Canadiens Prospect Rankings – No.4: Joshua Roy Deserves More Credit

Canadiens Prospect Rankings – No.3: Jacob Fowler The Next Great Hope

Canadiens Prospect Rankings – No.2: Lane Hutson The Phenom

1. Ivan Demidov, 18, Forward (RW/C), SKA-1946 St. Petersburg (MHL), 6’0″, 192 lb. Picked 5th overall in 2024.

Few will argue with Ivan Demidov’s quick ascension as the top Montreal Canadiens prospect. With all due to respect to Lane Hutson, which is a lot, Demidov is the exact player the team was missing in their prospect pool before being able to suggest the organization has talent and depth at every position. Besides, Hutson reigned as the team’s best prospect from the time he was drafted until the moment Demidov was picked by longtime Canadiens fan, Céline Dion, which is a very impressive stretch considering he was a late second-round selection.

While the team has finally assembled what can be considered a legitimate top line in Juraj Slafkovsky, Nick Suzuki, and Cole Caufield, there was no doubt the overall talent level among forwards left something to be desired, even if we consider Kirby Dach, Joshua Roy, and Alex Newhook as impact players, which they certainly can be when given the opportunity.

As talented as they are, I’d argue none of the aforementioned players have the same type of game-changing potential as Demidov. Slafkovsky is still quite young, and his impressive growth in the second-half of the 2023-24 season points to a player who is yet to scratch the surface of his long-term abilities, but I’m not yet convinced he’s on the same level as Demidov. To be clear, Slafkovsky, Suzuki, and the others can end up being considered among the best players at their position, however, Demidov’s skill set suggests he has the talent to possibly become a top-10 player in the entire NHL.

To get a better idea of how well he played prior to being drafted by the Canadiens, we can compare his production to other NHL players who evolved in Russia. Of course, the overall strength of Russian leagues has diminished in recent years, something we must keep in mind while evaluating his point totals, but suffice it to say he scored enough to mitigate the level of concern regarding the quality of competition he faced in the MHL.

The table embedded below includes results from under-18 seasons in the MHL, and as you can see, Demidov is responsible for the most productive U-18 campaign in league history, both in terms of raw totals (19 goals and 45 assists in 44 games), as well as his scoring pace (1.45 points per game).

montreal canadiens ivan demidov vs other NHL players

The goal isn’t to directly compare Demidov to Nikita Kucherov or Matvei Michkov, but rather, give Canadiens fans a better understand of why Demidov carried so much hype into the 2024 NHL Entry Draft. He followed up his fantastic under-18 campaign with an encouraging performance in the playoffs, with five goals and eight assists in just 10 games. Demidov maintained his production throughout the 2023-24 regular season, to the tune of 23 goals and 37 assists in 30 games. His two points per game ranks as the best scoring rate for an under-19 player in league history. Kucherov (1.87 points per game) and Michkov (1.82 points per game) are the only players who came close to matching Demidov’s output.

To put a fine point on how well be played prior to the Habs drafting him fifth overall, we can focus on his production in the playoffs last season. I know some will suggest playoff production is not indicative of a player’s overall value and potential, but when we’re discussing prospects, playoff production is often the most recent data available, thus making it quite relevant when it comes to projecting a prospect’s impact. Admittedly, his playoff production in 2023-24 also puts Demidov in the best light possible, as it was the best playoff run in league history for an under-19 player, but that’s par for the course when you score 11 goals and 17 assists in just 16 games.

Unfortunately, Demidov’s historic run was cut short when he suffered a lower-body injury, but there seems to be no lingering effect in play as he hit the ground running in preseason action this season.

What The Draft Experts Are Saying About Ivan Demidov

Rather than repeating some of the many, many, many compliments I have given Demidov since he was drafted, we will now turn to professional scouts to give us a better understanding of what he can bring to the table for the Habs. Suffice it to say, Canadiens fans are not the only ones who are excited about his NHL potential.

“Demidov is a dexterous, mechanically sound puck handler with the sort of fast-twitch wrists necessary to bring his ideas to life. Every move serves a purpose, whether improving the quality of his look as a shooter or creating openings in the defence that he can exploit as a distributor. And the same dexterity and touch that makes him so effective as a handler is every bit as present when he’s ready to send the puck elsewhere.” – Elite Prospects.

“Demidov is an elite offensive talent with elite hockey sense in high danger scoring areas. He can be deceptive with the puck on his stick when he walks off the wall, or makes plays from below the goal line. Demidov rarely disappointed with his defensive awareness as we went through the process of breaking down dozens of his games this season. Some players are programmed to battle more than others and Demidov’s combination of skill and will is noticeable.” – Sportsnet.

“The most dynamic offensive talent in this draft, Demidov averaged over two points per game in Russia’s U20 league. He was a dominant force, but his lack of KHL games and an inability to get live viewings of him against top peers in international competition like his predecessors does create an element of risk with Demidov. To the eye, however, he’s a natural shot-pass threat player who always seems to make the right read and finishes plays with regularity. His skating is closer to average, but he still has the ability to skate with some power and use his strength to get to the interior. He’s hard to knock off pucks, too. In the level he played at, his off-puck play was mostly strong. He plays an aggressive game in puck pursuit and has made that a significant part of his game, which only helps him to get the puck back more.” – Flo Hockey.

“A fantastically creative, dynamic, intelligent, and potent winger, Ivan Demidov could develop into a perennial Top 10 scorer league-wide. He finds highly effective yet stunningly creative solutions to many problems he encounters, and leverages his variety of elite tools to do so – relying less and less on his handling to do all the heavy lifting for him. He’s an active player off-puck, prodding for holes and riding blind spots, even possessing a plus-level motor on both sides of the puck and a desire to get engaged defensively. But it’s with the puck on his stick where he shines brightest. Featuring a near Datsyukian flair, Demidov can dissect defences all on his own – though he favours possession over trying to do so regularly. He’s the best puck handler we’ve scouted in the past 3 drafts, Bedard included.” – Dobber Prospects.

ON TOPIC: Instant Analysis: Canadiens Hit Home Run With Ivan Demidov Pick

Reasonable Expectations? We Don’t Need No Reasonable Expectations!

As for why Canadiens fans seem to be even more excited than usual, a quick look at the team’s draft record prior to the 2022 NHL Entry Draft will reveal a laundry list of first-round prospects who failed to make their mark. There are various reasons for the first-round failures, and not all of them were a result of the team picking the wrong player, but you’d be hard-pressed to argue the NHL Draft has provided the Canadiens with as  much value as it has for other organizations.

Then there’s the matter of the statistical comparisons. As we already discussed, he was arguably the best player in MHL history, which has led to some rather lofty comparisons. Byron Bader‘s model has Demidov up there with Connor Bedard in terms of projected impact. What’s more, that particular comparison has draft-year comparables such as John Tavares, Paul Kariya, Patrik Kane, and Sidney Crosby, an impressive list to say the least.

At the risk of overhyping Demidov, Bader’s model believes the Russian forward’s play in the MHL is on par with what we saw from some fairly well known hockey players prior to their rookie seasons in the NHL. Players such as Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, and Connor McDavid, among others. I don’t want to suggest Demidov will become one of the best players in league history, but it’s difficult not to get excited when statistical analysis and video evidence points to legitimate comparisons with some of the NHL’s greatest forwards.

The Next Step For Ivan Demidov

Demidov is such an interesting prospect because many of his skills, including his shooting and skating, are hard to evaluate based on traditional scouting. That’s not to say scouts are incompetent, or that Demidov has found a new way to play hockey, but one thing is for certain, he was not cast from the same mould as most hockey stars.

Playing a full season in the KHL will give us a better idea of how far off he is from being NHL ready, though we should guard ourselves from overreacting to every single play. He’s still learning, and consequently, he’s still making mistakes. We also have to remember he’s about to take the most significant step in his career, going from the MHL, the Russian equivalent to the CHL, all the way to the KHL. A grace period is in order so that the talented forward can find his rhythm. There will be much less time and space in play, which calls for an acclimatization period.

With that in mind, expect Demidov to once again produce more than his fair share of highlight plays, because that’s what he does best.


Do you agree or disagree with our Montreal Canadiens prospect rankings?  Let us know in the comments below!

Ivan Demidov statistics via the Elite Prospects. Cover picture via Russia Hockey.

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Tyrone

Other than the obligatory “work away from the puck” that all offensive players get tagged with, is there any info out there about areas that he could still work on? Just trying to get a complete understanding of the kid.

It will be interesting if we can find a player that can create the dynamic chemistry together with Demidov like a Hull & Oates had, that can lift both players (and the team) to an entirely different level. Right now Demidov sounds so good, you wonder if we have someone who can be on the same level as he is, so that plays he creates don’t get wasted because his linemates never expected to get the puck or can’t get the puck to areas where Demidov can do something out of nothing with it. I’d say Suzuki definitely has the brain and hockey IQ to do it, but are we ready to break up the best line we’ve had in recent memory to do it?

Habbycat

It’s a good question. We would certainly like to optimize him+. I hear lots of people talking about keeping the topline of Caufield-Suzuki and Slaf together, but I wonder if Demidov’s talent for disrupting the defensive structure in the Ozone might not suit Caufield’s elusiveness and anticipation really well. I expect we’ll see a few different combos and there will probably be some pluses and minuses to be revealed. Dach is no slouch either, and Demidov might have potential as a center, to boot! It’s all good!

Tyrone

I’m definitely looking forward to watching all the combos and seeing things click and watching the growth.

Tony

Good question indeed. If I exaggerate in comparables, it’s like wondering what kind of players can keep up and further lift the skills of a Gretzky or Lemieux (or Oates or Thornton), well, nobody really, however, like your Oates Hull example, “good enough” can work really well, and in our case, I strong believe the talent we already have with Suze Slaf CC Dach and especially Laine, are quite capable of complimenting a potentially superior skilled player like Demidov. All 4 of these guys are near ppg players and smart, and indeed, it;’s going to be very interesting, and a heck of a lot of fun, to see player combos down the line.

Marty has talked before how he strongly believes a DUO clicking together is important, as he experienced and mentioned he did with Brad Richards (I think) and then later LeCavalier. So we can be confident our coach will match our guys well.

I think Laine perhaps has the strongest knack to put himself in pass receipt/scoring positions, with Caufield a sneaky second, and they are both probably very well suited to capitalize on Demidov’s smarts, with the center being an important part of the equation of course.

One thing for sure, very few teams have as strong of a potential top 6 as we do now, I’d say less than half a dozen at most, if that.

Our top 6, (and the trickle down effect) is going to be scary good with Demidov, and will likely already be a whole new look for us as soon as this season with Laine, and not to be underestimated, the possible contribution to our offense Hutson could have, especially on the power play.

Best times to be Habs fans in a long, long time. Like, “Vive Le Quebec Libre”/Rusty Staub long time almost, lol.

Tyrone

Agreed. It’s even better now than it was when we had the fuzzy faced kiddies like Price, Subban and Pacioretty almost 20yrs ago.

John Stone

hey bud. I actually agree.. as he is ” dynamic” by other standards.. i love to see aswell what he can and has to work on.. apparently he has a great off ice work ethic.. however sometimes that doesn’t always translates to the on ice stuff.. I’m also looking forward with all the new possibilities we have with them is team .. the depth of our prospect pool and more.. You even have to admitt good sir.. I always told you to stay patient as a real rebuild takes alot of time.. not just 2 yrs like we are use to having.. we are more advanced in so many ways because the owner finally said ” F it ” and wants to start giving the fans more hope than before.

I really hope he is what ppl boasted about.
as he is a very intresting pick .. and makes me wonder if they did this for some other reason in the 2023 draft skipping michov. I also wanna see something comparing those two .. if you agree?

keep up the belief brotha.. the habs will be contenders soon enough.

Tyrone

I have preached patience from day 1 and fully expect that the rebuild is going to take 5+ years before we see tangible results, so once again you are confusing me with someone else. You can’t talk to me like you have in the past and then ignore that it never happened by calling me bud or brotha either.

Dana

It is reasonable to expect the players he lines up with will be better because they are playing with him and vice versa. None of the other 5 in our top 6 have hit their prime. They too will help Demidov produce as they will be entering their best statistical years starting this season for several of them. Think of the big lines historically in hockey, all of them were better together than they were as parts of something else. Marty will recognize chemistry and work to enhance and grow it. And we will have Roy/Newhook and Hage that could all enter the equation Think of Roy and Bedard at U20. We know our top line works really well together but there haven’t been viable options over the past two seasons like now and moving forward when Demidov arrives. I suspect that line has more of a chance of changing than it does of staying status quo.

Reality is we have lots of highly skilled players on the roster, all with different gifts and styles. Figuring out the right combos will be very entertaining to watch.